No Absolutes.

"Batman Forever" wasn't so bad. People just lump it into the shit pile with "Batman & Robin" because both were helmed by Joel Shumacher and the latter fell flat on it's face because it was practically a long version of a toy commercial. But "Batman Forever" at least had some redeeming qualities to it, not saying it was a great or fantastic film, but it was watchable despite it's occasional over-exaggerated moments.

To me, I was able to appreciate Val Kilmer's more conflicted version of Bruce Wayne than what had been seen on screen before his portrayal at the time, I enjoyed the update to the Dick Grayson character, and I've always liked what Dr. Meridian was able to bring out of Bruce Wayne's metaphorical soul to the point where even he - the legendary "Goddamn Batman" - contemplated ending his crimefighting career for her. Not to mention that this film was the first of it's kind to acknowledge a larger universe outside of it's own narrative by incorporating the city of Metropolis into it's storyline, albeit minor, but still decades ahead of it's time. I still think "Batman Forever" was a solid flick.... you have to work to appreciate some of it's qualities, but they're there.